Thoughts on Planet Mozilla

20 January 2010 by Matthew Gertner - Category: Rants and Ruminations

One of the biggest struggles I face every day is information overload, just like most of the people reading this post. As a result I am constantly reassessing the value of various feeds in my RSS reader and viciously pruning the ones I don’t really need. I don’t subscribe to any feed that produces more than 5-10 items a day anymore since the high-volume feeds like Slashdot and Boing Boing, while often fascinating, just make me depressed and stressed as the number of unread items piles up.

The odd man out is Planet Mozilla. As an active member of the Mozilla community, I can’t not subscribe to this feed. Some of the items (probably several a day) are absolutely vital reading for me if I am to do my job correctly. But the volume of postings makes me depressed and stressed in exactly the way I just mentioned. Particularly irksome is the fact that the vast majority (perhaps 90%) of the posts aren’t of interest to me at all.

Before I go further, let me stress how great Planet Mozilla is and what a personal debt I owe to it. When I began blogging in 2004, I had zero readers, and I had to go about building an audience the hard way (i.e. by humiliating link whoring). When I got onto Planet, my audience increased immensely in one fell swoop, and the new readers were mostly highly informed and articulate (exactly the opposite of what you get by being linked to by, say, Robert Scoble). When I started this blog, I was on Planet from the get go, and it was amazing to have such an immediate and high-quality readership.

All this to say that I understand how hard it is to do anything with p.m.o except add more and more feeds to it. Any disruption to the status quo will lead to howls of protest from people like me who benefit from this great resource. But eventually something has to give. Having a big audience is of diminishing value if the volume of the feed is so high that people don’t have time to read (or even scan) most of it.

When I first started begging for Peer Pressure to be added to p.m.o, I was told that there was discussion about splitting it into multiple feeds. I just checked and there are indeed a few smaller feeds (e.g. Planet Firefox) that are more or less a subset of p.m.o. But this isn’t enough to have the flexibility to make a real choice about which items are of interest (at least not for me). Just looking at the 60-odd unread items in my feed right now, I would suggest that the following categories as sensible:

  • Firefox development (present and future)
  • Third-party developers using Mozilla platform (including Messaging, Seamonkey)
  • Mozilla marketing and the browser market
  • Mozilla licensing and open-source in general
  • Mozilla Foundation
  • Testing
  • Employee status updates
  • Extension development and AMO
  • Mozilla Labs
  • Mozilla server admin
  • Meeting minutes
  • Documentation
  • Non-Mozilla posts by Mozilla folks (employees and community)

Something I don’t see right now but that I have seen in the past are posts from people who used to be big contributors to the Mozilla community, but now have nothing to do with it and never write about anything to do with Mozilla. In at least one instance I saw a person fitting this description complain when they were removed (they were then reinstated, much to my chagrin). So perhaps a “Mozilla alumni” feed would make sense as well.

This categorization is by no means definitive. My point is that it is possible to categorize the posts. I’d be ecstatic if the feed were split into 10 or so separate feeds along the lines of what I proposed above. The best part is that, due to the caliber of our blog authors, we can count on people tagging their posts intelligently so they can be included in multiple feeds, if appropriate, without muddying the waters. I certainly have no issue whatsoever with leaving Planet Mozilla exactly as it is now (and continuing to add new feeds frequently), as long as separate feeds are available as an alternative.

But that’s just me. Perhaps I’m the only one who sees this as an issue.


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COMMENTS
  • http://dafizilla.wordpress.com davide ficano

    I agree with you, many times I would to post but I realize only a very limited subset of readers can found my thoughts interesting so I simply don’t write anything.

    Splitting in many categories it is a good idea :)

  • http://limi.net Alexander Limi

    I switched to Planet Firefox, which is higher signal:noise for what I’m interested in. Might work for you, or maybe not. :)

    http://planet.firefox.com

  • Matthew Gertner

    Planet Firefox is definitely a step in the right direction, but it doesn’t include a lot of the feeds I would like to follow (e.g. Labs stuff — including this blog!). A few more feeds like that with different foci would be a huge help.

  • http://davidnaylor.org/blog/ David Naylor

    I guess you could simply follow planet for a while and add all the individual blogs/feeds that come up, then get rid of planet …

  • Matthew Gertner

    You could, but:

    - That’s a lot of redundant effort if many people do that (rather than doing it once for everyone).
    - You then miss out on new feeds.
    - Part of the solution I am proposing is to encourage authors to have different feeds for different types of posts (e.g. by using tags).
    - On the author side, we get no advantage. I’d like to have a “Planet Labs” feed so people can subscribe to my posts about Prism who might not know about my blog otherwise, but don’t want the whole high volume Planet Mozilla feed.

  • http://www.brinkhurstdesign.co.uk FuzzyFox

    I think this a good idea, I know that my posts to planet are of no interest to someone looking for the latest meeting minutes. I do however think that these need to stay subsets, using the main feed to sling everything into. I know that I like to read bits and pieces every now and again that are not in my usual area of interest.

    On the whole though, I think it should be implimented

  • http://ian.mckellar.org/ Ian McKellar

    I unsubscribed from Planet Mozilla when I left the Mozilla community and my life has been far simpler for it. As a member of the GNOME community (who pioneered the “planet” concept) I’m a strong believer in aggregating personal as well as technical posts since they are as critical to building a sense of community. What doesn’t belong are non-personal blogs and marketing content. A planet should be for any by the community.

    These days Planet Mozilla is filled with corporate marketing posts, lengthy, poorly edited meeting transcripts and minor software update notifications with almost no content. There is good stuff in there but it’s hidden by the crap.

    These days I just subscribe to a coupe of Mozilla community members’ blogs – ones who I like personally or who consistently post interesting things. That’s how I saw this post :)

  • Daniel Glazman

    +1000, I even thought on writing myself a blog entry on that subject precisely. I remained afk a few days because of a lumbago, and the number of important blog entries I missed on pmo shocked me. Blogs are not documentation…

  • Adam

    I agree.. I used to read BoingBoing all the time.. but I have started to find a lot of the news depressing, so I don’t read it anymore, and actively avoid it… Its a wonderful site, but if I kept reading it, I would need to take more anti depressants… way more.

  • dria

    The Planet Mozilla team has had a few discussions along these lines, but I think the issue has been the technical difficulty of actually implementing a system that will automatically and cleanly categorize posts from a ton of different blogging systems.

    We were exploring a possible solution prior to the holidays but haven’t revisited that yet. I’ll get that process restarted today.

    I agree, for what it’s worth, 100%. Figuring out how to divide Planet into topic-specific channels would be brilliant. That’s more-or-less what we’re trying to figure out.

  • Matthew Gertner

    Thanks, Ian, I appreciate the sentiment. :-)

  • Matthew Gertner

    That’s great, Deb! I thought there were probably discussions along these lines, but I figured a bit of whining and nagging on my part never hurt anyone.

  • Gabriel

    For people who use feed readers, planet mozilla provides an opml file, which can be tweaked more easily than the global feed.

    I have a freshly written xslt stylesheet over there; for planet mozilla (in the generic folder) it merely adds a p.m.o tag google reader uses: http://github.com/g2p/opml-planets

  • http://blog.edgartolman.com Eddie Tolman

    I completely agree. I don’t subscribe to the feed due to the sheer number of posts, but I do read through it every day after work. I live it when I find a new blog to follow, but since I am a Mozilla consumer and not a contributor I don’t get anything out of posts on coding, Firebug, or the poorly formatted meeting minutes. If there were a way to blacklist certain feeds (or if someone actually distilled those meeting minutes), the planet would be a whole lot less polluted.

  • http://whereswalden.com/ Jeff Walden

    Matthew, there’s a Planet Mozilla Blog which provides updates on feed changes, additions, removals, etc. to p.m.o which can be used to keep up with its evolution even without subscribing directly to p.m.o.

    http://blog.mozilla.com/planet/

    Simply due to the volume of a couple other blogs I read, I switched to subscribing to all Planet members individually (minus a very few), and — for my purposes, given the other things I read — I find it works well. It also lets me read stuff from several short-sighted contributors who syndicate only Mozilla-related stuff to p.m.o. ;-)

  • http://sam.haslers.info Sam Hasler

    “It’s Not Information Overload. It’s Filter Failure.” – Clay Shirky

    I gave up on the p.m.o. RSS feed a while back because few feed readers don’t have decent filters in them and Yahoo Pipes were hard to manage. I switched to following @plannetmozilla on twitter using TwitFactory with a ton of filters (http://bit.ly/7Hkgpe ) to sort tweets into various folders or trash. It’s interface is slow, and I have to use Firefox’s SQLite plugin to edit it’s Filters so I’ll be abandoning TwitFactory as soon as RainDrop is mature enough to use.

  • http://gphemsley.org/ Gordon P. Hemsley

    I haven’t read most of the comments, but I would like to express my support for this idea. I am currently (literally, right now) working through my backlog of articles in my feedreader—about half of which belong to Mozilla Planet or an offshoot thereof. (The other half is from Ars Technica.)

    In the past, I have often simply marked as read articles that were older than a week old, and I still had ~100 articles left per feed. I’ve also pruned some feeds altogether because I never read them, or they give me duplicate information.

    I would love to be able to weed out the articles that I don’t care about. I would probably subscribe to a number of the categories you suggested, but at least I’d be able to opt-out of a couple. And 10 feeds with 15 new articles is psychologically a lot less daunting than one feed with 150 new articles.

  • http://mozdev.org/ Eric Jung

    I’ve read all comments, and I’m surprised no one has mentioned that this is precisely what mostnews organizations do. BBC, CNet, CNN, etc–they all have multiple feeds organized by topic. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/help/3223484.stm for BBC’s list (under “CHOOSE A FEED”)